In this episode Ron chats with Dutch Rojas. Dutch is a healthcare entrepreneur dedicated to making medical treatments affordable and accessible to all. Currently, he is the Chief Executive Officer of Sano Surgery, a bundled priced network as well as the Founder of Everyone Health, a consumer marketplace to purchase medical treatments. Dutch immigrated to the United States from the Netherlands and served in the US Marine Corps from 1995 to 2002. Here they discuss nurse and provider retention, direct contracting, proven ways to drive down the cost of healthcare, evangelizing low cost with high quality at fewer locations, why economic issues that are common sense in other industries are not adopted in healthcare, and more.